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Title  3.5 Edition Ranger
Author  Grey Wolf
Submitted / Updated  09-16-2003 / 01-19-2004
Category  Code Modifications
Expansions  SOU-1.30
Modifies the Ranger to use 3.5 Edition rules. To see what this does, specifically, read the list of changes in the readme. The download listed under '2DA patch' is the HotU version of the hak, but it might also be required for SoU 1.61.


Submitted: 09-16-2003 / Last Updated: 01-19-2004
Submitted: 09-16-2003 / Last Updated: 01-19-2004
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Comments (27):

Posted by 4uk4ata at 2008-01-12 15:53:19    
I've installed the 4 normal files in the override directory (all but that which came in its own directory and turned on archery mode) but they don't seem to work. Is this compatible with the CEP or the PRC?

Posted by Fenris ( ) at 2006-01-18 07:15:51    
Hmm, I dont' know if it's just me but suddenly the Ranger doesn't get Favored Enemy when I install this.

Posted by Xeyra at 2005-02-17 17:37:00    
Hmm... Ignore my doubt. Apparently, I should have properly read the readme file, as it says there the feat is given at level 2. Nevermind.


Posted by Xeyra at 2005-02-17 17:35:00    
One question. I put the files in my override folder (I have about four of them, created upon installing the official expansions, named something like Override_bak1 and 2). I put the files in the one that said override only, using the archer file because I wanted my character to be an archer. I opened NWN, tried to create a new character, but not only had the dual-weild feat disappeared (as it probably should) but I didn't have the Point Blank Shot and Rapid Shot feats as I though I should have. What did I do wrong? Thanks.


Posted by Dur at 2004-03-06 11:12:21    Voted 7.00 on 03/06/04

Posted by Grey Wolf ( ) at 2004-01-19 16:13:00    
That should make my mod work with 1.61.

About the two classes idea: I think that would be possible, but would probably require TLK file editing, which I don't really want to mess with. If anyone wants to take a shot at it with my data, go right ahead.

Posted by Solwen ( ) at 2003-12-20 13:52:00    
I tried this override before HotU and it worked great! I was wondering if there is any plan to make sure this over ride is 6.1 friendly?

Posted by DM_Tim ( ) at 2003-11-19 16:06:00    
Could the files be modified to allow both types of rangers as different classes (i.e. Dual Ranger and Archery Ranger)? If so how?


- DM_Tim

Posted by BNNY ( ) at 2003-10-03 07:50:00    
Is the link for download bad or is it just the server?

Posted by Grey Wolf ( ) at 2003-10-02 13:31:00    
The Animal Companion bug should be fixed. I had originally used a 1.28 2DA to do this mod, but I had switched to SoU 1.30 partway through, so it wouldn't break the new classes. Unfortunately, I hadn't noticed that 1.30 added a new column to the cls_feat_*** 2DAs. The new version adds the extra line to the 2DA, which determines what shows up on the radial menu. Thanks to Wouter van Dam for pointing this out to me.

Posted by Nospmas ( ) at 2003-09-27 16:12:00    
hey Grey Wolf i'm having the same problem that kevin was having i cannot summon my animal companion. when you go to the radial menu where it usually shows the ranger special abilities it has nothing and i have nowhere to select the animal companion.

Posted by Grey Wolf ( ) at 2003-09-19 17:43:00    
To tell you the truth, I have no idea why that is happening. It seemed to me that it was all hard-coded, with the entry in the 2DA just to make it show up in the Feat list. Now, I'm not so sure.....

Posted by Kevin ( ) at 2003-09-19 08:05:00    
Yes it did, everytime I leveled up I could improve my animal companion. I just couldn't summon it from the radial menu.

Posted by Shadowwalker ( ) at 2003-09-18 15:02:00    
I heard the Rogue gets Hide in Plain sight. I don't have the 3.5e handbooks so I don't know. Are there any 3.5e changes to prestige classes?

Posted by Grey Wolf ( ) at 2003-09-18 14:30:00    
Kevin, did the menu to select your Animal Companion come up properly?

And to Bhaeru, Ice Titan, Balgin, etc.: If the primary changes are skill points and the like, I can adjust those fairly easily. The paladin having lay on hands switch to second level isn't anything difficult either. I'll try to get around to making those changes and adding them to the Zip by tonight.

Posted by Balgin Stondraeg ( ) at 2003-09-17 22:57:00    
Note to Ice Titan: The 3.5 Paladins don't get lay on hand until 2nd level. The druids can now spontaneously cast SUmmoning spells (as in summon animal 1, summon animal 2 etc) just like clerics can spontaneously heal or harm. I'd call all those in that list pretty major changes personaly. That doesn't mean that I like them, just that they're pretty big.

Posted by Bhaerau ( ) at 2003-09-17 22:07:00    
Some of the changes from 3.0 to 3.5 includes the bard's skill points (6 instead of 4) and the barbarian gets damage reduction at different levels.

Posted by Kevin ( ) at 2003-09-17 19:34:00    
I'm at 9th level and have the feat but I just can't get the icon to summon it to appear on the radial menu, or set a quickslot.

Posted by IceTitan ( ) at 2003-09-17 19:23:00    
Most of the class Changes from 3.0 to 3.5 are amount of skill points, spell choices. Only one that was drasticly altered was ranger, and the Paladin did get some twinking by adding more Smite Evil per day (1 extra smite per 5 levels).

But only ranger had the drastic change.

Posted by Grey Wolf ( ) at 2003-09-17 18:49:00    
Hmm... It shouldn't do that. What level does the feat appear at? If it appears at 4th level, then I forgot to switch it back to 6th. It appears to be hard-coded into the engine, doesn't matter what level you get the feat at.

Posted by Kevin ( ) at 2003-09-17 17:16:00    
I like this change for the ranger, thanks. But for some reason I can't summon my animal companion, I don't know if your rule changes are responsible. I can't find the icon for summoning my animal companion.

Posted by Grey Wolf ( ) at 2003-09-17 13:10:00    
Actually, I just looked through the other classes, and there doesn't seem to be really much of a difference between the 3.0 and the 3.5 Editions for them.

Posted by Grey Wolf ( ) at 2003-09-17 12:43:00    
Shouldn't be too hard to convert any of the others. Any preference on which to start with?

Posted by Xenomorph ( ) at 2003-09-17 06:18:00    
+blocked+. Hit the enter button early.
Bhaerau: The ranger was in need of this fix more than any other class.

Posted by Shadowwalker ( ) at 2003-09-16 22:50:00    
Anyone making a 3.5 Rogue? Or how about all the other classes?

Posted by Bhaerau ( ) at 2003-09-16 22:04:00    
Very nice. The ranger deserved a power up and definetly got it in 3.5. It's a shame BioWare aren't inclined to start using it. Maybe for NWN 2 then...

Posted by paladin235 ( ) at 2003-09-16 22:03:00    
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