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Title  Lisa's Celtic Crosses
Author  Lisa
Submitted / Updated  05-02-2003 / 06-20-2003
Category  Placeables
My version of a Celtic Cross done up in 3 sizes: Huge Placeable, Medium Placeable, Hand-held holy symbol (which works like all my other Holy Symbol torches). This hak is compatible with all my older haks if it is given top priority. Both size Placeable crosses share the same portrait. If you don't use my other placeables you probably will want to edit down the placeables.2da and portraits.2da

To create items: Add the hak to your module and Import from erf file. The Placeables will be under custom_miscellaneous, the Holy Symbol Item under custom_miscellanous_other ************ Or use item wizard to create from scratch choosing Placeable appearance CelticMed, or CelticHuge, or Item Torch appearance 22. Reset the Medium Celtic portrait to the one include for the Huge. ********* Finally Edit each items properties to suit your project.

I made the texture awhile ago but hadn't got round to making a model for it until I had a special request for a new holy symbol. I used the texture for that design and with some alterations used it for these three items because I thought it turned out quite nice looking in the game. I know Martin E is planning a whole tileset of Celtic items for later this summer (which I look forward to), but - hey, the more the merrier. *************** ********SoU 2da replacements zip, Important to read directions for use! Note it is not 'ready to use' you must choose/edit what you need and form a hak pack. If you have NWN 1.3, follow the same directions to make new files.


Submitted: 05-02-2003 / Last Updated: 05-02-2003
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Comments (13):

Posted by Martin_E at 2004-02-20 10:35:50    Voted 10.00 on 02/20/04
Overall: 9   Usefulness: 10   Value for Size 10   Ease of Use 10   Quality Control 9   

Posted by srn at 2004-02-20 10:35:45    Voted 10.00 on 02/20/04
Overall: 10   Usefulness: 8   Value for Size 10   Ease of Use 10   Quality Control 10   

Posted by Old_Scores_Transfered at 2004-02-20 10:04:28    Voted 5.14 on 02/20/04
This is a compilation of the old system into a single score. There were 14 that made this score of 5.14.

Posted by Stunned ( ) at 2003-07-05 22:37:00    
You are amazing

Posted by mrkitty75 ( ) at 2003-05-06 04:37:00    
Sigh... yet ANOTHER great hak by Lisa. Keep it up!

Posted by Anaeles ( ) at 2003-05-06 01:22:00    
Yes, a lot of other religions' designs have been absorbed into Christianity, and the circle part is from a much earlier time, most likely, but not the cross itself. The Celts were all about threes, not fours. Mind, body and soul, sun, earth and moon are what is always mentioned in Celtic things, along with all the triple goddesses, and so on. The neoliths, who were in Britain before the arrival of the Celts, did have a lot to do with the number four, but they were so diminished by the time that Christianity arrived many centuries later, that they would have had no effect on the symbol whatsoever.

But again, excellent cross design. Maybe you could put those little knotty swirly bits on, and the shield boss bits. That would look really cool.

Posted by HappyZergling ( ) at 2003-05-05 13:46:00    
Lisa does it again!

Not only does she make placable crosses, but she even includes a holy symbol! Great textures, great shape, general great job.

Posted by Lisa ( ) at 2003-05-05 10:43:00    
While hunting about looking for symbols I ran into a lot of references to the circle cross design. The celtic circled crosses, I think I read only started around the 4th century AD. - relatively modern :)

Several hystory sites point to the probablity that earlier peoples symbols were basically absorbed into christianity. I wanted a symbol with more ancient mystery.

Here are a couple short "blurbs" from some history sites:
"The cross shape itself has been widely used by many ancient peoples, long before the arrival of Christianity. Its four arms were perfect for denoting the four elements, the four directions of the compass, and the four parts of man - mind, body, soul and heart. The addition of the ring around the cross has had many explanations, everything from sun worship and symbolism, to creating a shape with the cross that was well contained and aesthetically pleasing."

"If the Celtic Cross borrowed a pagan sun symbol, just as the Chi-Rho borrowed the pagan imperial laurel wreath, applying these to a Christian symbol were expressions of honor and reverence that should be seen in the context of the cultures that brought them forth."

I just don't want anyone thinking I am somehow pushing any particular religion here. I just thought it was "aesthetically pleasing" :)

Posted by Anaeles ( ) at 2003-05-05 08:47:00    
Oh, do you mean the round style of the head of the cross, like on all the shields and that?

You could make it so it warded off vampires. That'd be cool.

Posted by Anaeles ( ) at 2003-05-05 08:44:00    
What do you mean that the Celtic Cross is a much older symbol that was absorbed into Christiantiy into recent times? Do you mean the Roman crucifixion device, or the Celtic Cross? I have studied the ancient Celtic world in some depth, and I have found no mention of the Celtic Cross symbol before Britain was Christianised. Maybe you're thinking of the holy trinity? That was Celtic. I'm not knocking you for using the cross symbol, nothing could be further from my mind, you do such excellent placeables, costumes and hand-held devices, I was just intrigued as to why you thought that the cross was used as a holy symbol before Christianity.

Posted by Martin E ( ) at 2003-05-05 01:55:00    
'the more the merrier' - :) definitely, I know that I'll be using your placeable when I finally get round to Celtic module - which was the whole reason for starting my Celtic tileset in the first place.

Thanks again Lisa - and good luck in getting to 2nd place in the poll.

Martin E

Posted by Yanah ( ) at 2003-05-04 14:20:00    
You've done it once again, lisa!

Posted by Da Nippers ( ) at 2003-05-04 14:09:00    
I look forward to seeing this, Allways See wonderful Work Come from you Lisa, Btw, Probably a Bad question but any chance of seeing a Mix Of ALL your Horse 7, with with the cloaks, the Necro robes and Lengurie (My spellins lousy, Huked on Fonics Woiked Fer Me ;8o)...) I loved Yer dresses and robes and Kilts best, but was frusterated at the men and Women Crossovers, You know when You put that Ball gown arm at this Number the man's arm Disappears? lol Anyways AWSOME WORK so glad that Talent such as you and Many others Are around May the Gods Bless us with more of ya'll and May they bless me with the Patience and Wisdom to use yer creations and Standards In my future Endeavers.

Da Nippers

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