A Dance with Rogues Part 1 2.0 (EE Compatible)

One of my favourite games of all time is updated and for frEE?? that should've been a crime.

I'm not sure if it's a bug or my own fault but I've been trying to find that one person in the isle of the dead to continue the missing citizens quest but I can't find him. I've gone there at night and midnight but no sign of him :/

That's because he's there during the day only.

i absolutely loved the original modules, and played them twice in a row. Now that ive been playing this version i love it even more. Only tiny annoyances for me are the small, little roads in the harbor area, and the way the Dhorn Guards are almost imidiately in your face after you get arrested and have nothing on your body, giving you barely enough time to re-equip an outfit before they drag you off to jail AGAIN.

i really do hope a remake of part two will also be in the making, because this is absolutely stunnning

thank you for the amazing modules, and you surely are a artist in story telling.

Figured I'd replay my favourite crpg campaign ever (would that Owlcats made their stuff without content restrictions T_T) and was incredibly delighted to discover that it's been updated and is being worked on again. I cannot overstate my jubilation XD

First impressions on changes I've seen so far while I'm doing lessons:

- The new maps are quite impressive. Enough that NWN engine struggles with them, really - I once managed to phase through an archway and teleport onto a overpass with no way off due to pathfinding freaking out XD Still worth it.

- Actually tracking accessories like underwear state is very welcome. Being able to fully customize appearance in a way that the world responds to is one of my favourite features in adult crpgs, I appreciate any further enhancements. Although, I noticed that Trissa's miniskirt and miniskirt from the shop evoke different reactions despite using the same model, is that on purpose?

- Cutscene sex is a bit unfortunate, though. Interactivity of a dialogue allowed for much greater sense of investment even when the options had little to no mechanical difference in the end. That and you could set the pace at which you go through the scene, while new ones can sometimes last longer than you care to watch them. The old-style scene in the western quarter during pickpocketing lesson felt a lot better than the new cutscene ones.

Tempted to check ahead if the escape from the bandit fort has been changed. I remember the original verion was a huge tease, dangling that perverted mastiff in front of the princess, but never letting her take it for a ride. Would be awesome if it's actually possible this time around.

It has been over 2 months since the last update. Are any updates planned or are they finished?

This new version uses Intimate Animations or something similar?

Can I get some help?  I'm in the "Welcome Home" chapter.  In the online walkthrough for the old version, it suggests that a mission is triggered that has you work with Pia and Vico to find the fireplace exit to the North.  In the new version, Pia and Vico disappear, and my journal suggests I should find someone who knows about the Dhorn.  I've been exploring the city to no avail, and I retuned to the Tavern several times to get the same response to "lay low".  I happy to get a spoiler to help me progress to the next step.  Will the mission eventually trigger after several visits to the Tavern?

Fantastic story.  I love rogue-centric modules that encourage stealth and wit over brute strength.  I'm not into sexual content in my video games (not that I'm offended, just not interested), and my only critique is that you need to use your sexuality to trigger some missions.  I'm playing a cutthroat character, but prefer to keep my dignity.  The story, of course, gives you that option, but I get the sense I'm missing out on some things by playing a discerning princess.  Nonetheless, this is epic and the characters are rich.  I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

I had an issue in the Isle quest where Christian and Myra were not casting any spells at all, which makes them kind of worthless. Anyone else have this issue or know if it was fixed in ver 2.03 (I was playing 2.02)?

Is there any quest associated with the dwarves in the back room of the brothel in Western Bretancuria? The leader is named, so that is why I am asking/

Hi, I'm having a lot of trouble with the fatigue system. The princess is always tired, hungry and thirsty even after resting, drinking and eating, it makes the module practically unplayable, she even died once when I tried to rest for 8 hours, even though she ate and rested twice shortly before.

And I can't deactivate it either, I followed the instructions, copied the no food hotfix last into the hk folder but nothing happens. I tried to start a new game after making the changes but it's all the same. And now there also a problem with one of the initial cutscenes, after her escorts are killed and she runs, the cutscene where she's captured and must escape until Vico gets her doesn't trigger, I have to run manually and the first time this happened the princess got killed because I didn't know what was happening. 

I found a problem. When I was in the Temple of Hyath (The Golden Chalice), I went down stairs and there is a first evil door that is un-lockpick-able. Is there anyway to pass through it? Or did I miss anything before going to the first door?

Holy crap! I was so glad to see this was updated. I must have spent the past ten years looking up to see if the modules got updated. And to my surprise it was. I clocked about sixty hours on this new version. I thoroughly enjoyed exploring every nook and cranny I could searching. I very much got addicted to this playing about 8-10 hours a day over the span of a week. The ending was marvelous and I have my fingers crossed that there will be an update to part two. I am quite sad I couldn't play more!

I did find there were some bugs:

1. The secret diary duplicated itself after an encounter with a sailor. I managed to fix it using some troubleshooting guide on the wiki by dropping it, checking the diary ID from the Aurora toolset itself and then just creating the relevant version.
2. I could not leave the mayor's mansion with the captive slave nor could I find an exit easily. It took a bit of trial and error but I found finding the mayor himself and pestering him got be chucked out of the manor.
3. The captive did not go away himself. I had to run a script which I found on the wiki and manually remove him from my party. I did not find him after either at the location he said he would be.
4. I got a bit confused and stuck wondering where Kena was during the Undertow quest. I found her after reporting to Aflons about the missing people and going back at night. 
5. There were some errors sometimes if a party member got stuck. Some sort of AOB error. It stopped when I used voice commands and got them to follow me.

I hope this helps!

Hello, so far I am really enjoying this version of the module. Everything feels a lot more real. I had to disable the food and thirst system though, because I felt it got in the way of my fantasy experience X)

So far, I've encountered one major problem that prevents me from doing a quest. I looked for a solution in the comments (since the wiki wasn't updated to the new version) but I didn't find anything. It's about the Dhorn Love / Dhorn Slayer quest.

When I met Simon in western Betancuria, he said that his house was in the southern part of the city (I assume, the harbor), but now, the only place on the Isle of Men is a tavern. Has the location changed while the line wasn't updated? Help would be very much appreciated.

Hello, sorry if this was answered before, but do you absolutely have to put the files inside the game folder? Can I put them inside User/Documents/Neverwinter Nights instead? EE, btw.

Hi, I'm a little stuck in the Golden Chalice quest, and any help would be greatly appreciated!

I've gotten through most of it, (I think). I have the pearl ring. I can make my way down to a seemingly slippery ledge, or I can climb the stairs and exit the dungeon. Whereever I go, I haven't run into the Christoph or Myra. Have I missed a secret door somewhere? Where are they waiting for me?

Alright, I finished it and here's my thoughts about it (spoilers)

- Very nice facelift and I liked the changes in the quests, although I ran into some troubles.

- This is just my opinion, but I think Lesson 1 could use more options. Right now the possible paths are to persuade Gaston or to rob a beggar. Perhaps a third option at least could make this lesson more fun. Like finding some raggedy clothes somewhere (dumspter diving?) or perhaps an evil rogue could steal Trissa's clothes and rip them apart until they look like something a beggar would wear, I mean the chick already openly hates the main character so she might as well get an actual reason to do so, lol. Also, Gaston is not the only dressmaker in town. Why can't we go ask Nora too? If with Gaston the condition is to persuade him and then get the outfit for free, perhaps with Nora it could be a more normal transaction with her telling you she'll do for x amount of gold. Or perhaps she'll be real nice and tell you you can get some left over rags in exchange for running an errand or something. 

- I liked, to put in a way, the new cutscene in the Golden Chalice quest, with the possible future of the princess getting impregnated and abandoned by Christano. It feels more relevant to the quest itself, showing her the possible consequences of putting out for that paladin wannabe. I think this gives more weight to the decision of acting like a slut and letting the guy have his way with her. Even if at the end this doesn't happen, I think the point is to give her more insight on the consequences of her actions. Which I think is very relevant to what Jacia explained to her about the 13th god. 

- I found the progression of the Ravenstower quest rather confussing and perhaps inconclusive. Maybe updating the journal with something like "I should talk to" or "go to" after Castias invitation to diner would help.

When I visited the chapel, the guards say the captain has the key, and I can't speak to him because getting into that room would screw up things with the emissary, so the only choice is to pick the lock, I think. This made one of the guards hostile and the other told me to ask the guard that found Dana's body about what happened down there, but I couldn't find the guy... ? Also the boss battle with Terek was anticlimatic, I go in there with all the Ravenstowers resurrected and yet he speaks to the princess as if they weren't there. Then he runs away and I waste one of my resurrect charges on Claile thinking that quest goes on until I get the wizard, that's on me I guess. But none of that happened and, after talking to the Baron, they all go away except Claile, who then awkwardly stayed in my party all the way to the road to Betancuria until a Dhorn got her. I probably didn't get the progression correctly in that one and missed something important. Perhaps getting into the vault first, since Pia mentions something about the place messing with magic spells as a security measure, but I was rping a lawful evil at that run so I left that for the very end, whoops.

I did like the overhaul on the Baron, not so rapey anymore, but still a huge a-hole. And the change in the resurrection staff too, I can't refresh it by resting like the old one, but its 9 charges are more than enough.

- I don't know what to do with the dresses that don't fit the princess, I tried talking to the tailors while holding them in my inventory but I don't get any options of asking them to fix them for her like I can with armors. Are those just to sell?

- I also went and killed Simon on the tavern instead of following the quest path of having sex with Jero to find out where he is, but later in dialogs they talk as if she got him in his house instead. Perhaps the dialogs could better reflect the player's choice, or avoid making any specfic reference about how she did it?

And about that, is there another option to find Caron's murderers without sleeping with that guy? If so I'd appreciate a hint.

The EE version of the game is too pedantic.  I can't achieve the beggar disguise. Gave up on this version of the mod and the game. Just as well I only paid a discount for the EE version. 

PS. Completed the quest.  I had to use DebugMode to lower my charisma.  Is the hungry/thirsty feature part of the game or part of this Mod?

What amazes me is how often people are okay with violence but get squimish about sex. Hack a person's head off that's okay.  Show T&A, procreate the species and it's shock, horror. 

I am hopelessly lost in Lesson 3 sewers.  Version 2.03 has too many cheap shots leading to dead ends and giving false leads.  If I ever play this version again I will make sure I install the sewer key in My Chest. 

Spoilers

Best NWN module ever written made even better.  It's like playing ADWR for the first time all over again. I hope Part 2 gets a facelift soon!  Thank you for 15 years of amazing gaming!

Edit:  Well, I finished it.  Crammed it into the holiday weekend.  I'm not in love with a few of the changes.  I believe any criticism should be positive, so I will start with what I liked and give constructive feedback for anything I wasn't a fan of.  Lowered my rating to a 9 due largely to bugs/issues and not personal dislikes of the changed content.

• I loved the city redesign and the checkpoints.  Really made me scared to walk around the city and focused on Shadowdancer instead of my usual, Rogue(1)/Fighter (3) repeat just to keep my talking and locks and traps skills up.  Felt like a city under siege.
• I enjoyed the fatigue system.  Really felt broke stealing for food early game.
• Dialogue is polished - especially since the author doesn't speak English natively.  Only noticed a few typos/odd diction and they weren't distracting.  I've stopped playing modules before because of typos.
• Liked the new "accessoires".  My Princess only wears heels and never panties.
• I really enjoyed the Tony the Tiger revamp.  Really fleshed him out and made my Princess feel like Michelle Pfeiffer from Scarface.  Need to include an option to become a junkie!
• I was glad to see more consensual options, like Pia offering to give it up to the Baron instead of the Baron demanding it.  I felt like my Princess became less of a victim as the story went on and as the husband of a woman who enjoys older men sticking things up her ass, it was nice to see the possibility of a pleasurable experience.

Some areas I think could be improved upon:

• The sewers were difficult to navigate, especially early game when you really need them to get past checkpoints safely.  I was very frustrated with everything plot locked early game or behind hidden doors and must have walked past the hideout half a dozen times before I gave up and opened the toolset.  Maybe have a look out outside of the hidden door to "signpost"?  Also, the sewers didn't flow as naturally as the old version and you really had to explore them or else miss critical plot points like Tony or the Informant.  You can skip Tony, but I can't imagine how the plot would work if the Princess never overheard the conversation.
• The new interiors are nice, but many of them don't show anything on the minimap.  And then the buildings were buily in giant circles and figure-8s, so it was easy to get turned around and forget where you haven't explored yet.  I would have missed Norah without cracking open the toolset because I was focused on the other side of the building with the General.
• Little nitpicky, there are signs that show Dhorn being 25 miles away and the Crossing 35 miles away.  That's not an empire.  That's a Greek city-state.  Which is fine (and makes the Dhorn feel slightly more beatable), but then it takes 4 hours to walk 35 miles from the Crossing back to Betancuria.  But at the end it's going to take weeks by fast ship to get around Sargozia and get to Dhorn.  
• And you walk through big long areas that you've already cleared and they were still empty!  What a great opportunity wasted for some optional higher difficulty combats and another chance to save Anders - especially since the plot forces Anders back on you as soon as you return to the city.  Also, Ive got rope.  Why can't my 15 Tumble Princess cross the stupid broken bridge late game if the surrounding areas are just going to be big, long, empty, retreads.
• The Kraken was a poor substitute for the Dragon.  A Kraken is a sea monster, not a land monster and I know there was water nearby, but also a river Kraken?  Multiple river Kraken?  The Kraken also had some sort of aura (fear?) that never touched my Princess because the aura was subsumed entirely by the Kraken's arms.  She couldn't even get close to the aura using shortswords.  
• I'm not a fan of a lot of changes to Missing Pia.  I really liked the new Academy (but I don't understand why the Clay Golem was immune to bludgeoning) and I liked the tie in between the two mages and the filling out of Terik's character. The new Raventower didn't give the same feeling of helplessness that the original did - lost on the other side of the world.  Dying of exposure would have worked great with the new fatigue system.
• I think the Crossing bugged out on me entirely.  My Princess was invited to dinner by the young Baron, but he never appeared in his room or the dining room.  I scoured the place and couldn't figure out where I was supposed to meet him. 
• The Uncle never left his waypoint next to the throne but kept yelling at me for wandering into his chambers.  I was never able to find the Uncle's wife or Golem, but I did find the secret door.  Never could find Terik to show the proof from the Dhorn Emissary. 
• Went to the Inn and got the fancy room, but when I tried to make the moves on Pia she told me she was too tired.  I guess you're supposed to spend multiple days in the Crossing to romance Pia?  Didn't feel like a castle under siege and I never had the opportunity to sleep with Pia again because the young Baron was killed by Terik the next day and it seems kinda ridiculous to spend a few nights in the Inn while there is a manhunt on for your characters. 
• Terik fled the fight and I found the treaty (Pia kept dying with her bow and spells in the small room and the guards, so I had to save scum), but there was nothing to do with it. I had a couple resurrection scrolls (never found the rod), so I resurrected the young Baron, but he just gave me the dialogue when you run into him at the bottom of the stairs after his father dies.  Couldn't resurrect the Baron, either.  Could never figure out what to do with the Dhorn evidence.  Save scummed to try different options. 
• The River Guides stealing the boat was a little ham handed (why can't 5 people fit? or a dialogue test to convince them to let you ferry them across while they hold Pia hostage).  I eventually ended up taking them with me to discover the dead young Baron and fight Terik.  Annoyed that I wasn't able to loot them after they went hostile.
• Terik in the tower was invincible.  Every time he died, he reteleported to his spot across the room and went neutral, but he was still agro'd by henchmen if there was a surrender conversation.  Tried to use the Wand of Oblivion on Terik and it did nothing.
• Couldn't get into the tomb.  Looks like I need Cassius, Dana, or the old Baron to open the door.  No idea how to recruit them or resurrect them.
• When I opened the tomb door, one of the guards went hostile whether he saw me or not.  The other didn't.  Same thing with the other guard if I tried to open the other door.
• Tried talking to the Dhorn Emissary about the evidence with the treaty but all he did was attack me.  Never had the option to get that special cleric with the Rod called in.
• The River Guides followed me all the way back to Betancuria.  Journal toolset says we're supposed to have a fight, but I must have missed the trigger.  They died in the attack on the Bear Pit, but the quest never closed out.
• Was hoping for some way to "launder" stolen items if checkpoints are going to be a thing.  I was thinking I could sell the item to the black market vendor and buy it back, but the stolen flag never went away.  So Pickpocket was stolen the entire game.
• The smith in the Crossing was able to add regeneration and +'s to Pickpocket, but Igor or Nora could not.  Nora was WAY too cheap.  Maxed out Pickpocket cost less than 25k, I think.
• Never got the Jacia/Kena thing to do anything and the guy who starts the other quest was dead when I returned to him after the first time I searched the tower (during the day so no Kena).  Got my first ring of regeneration off him, so it was worth it, but the quest never closed.  He was just dead.  Came back at night to talk to Kena but she was just hostile, so no talking.  Told Alfons about Jacia and Jacia disappeared and Kena never reappeared in the tower, so never was able to finish the quest.  Nothing ever happened with the Jacia quest after this.
• Put the painting in my chest so Master Nathan wouldn't take it away.  Little upset I couldn't hang it on the wall with the rest of my art.  Every time I had the painting in my inventory and reloaded, the quest resolved again and I got the quest resolved music.
• Never figured out the sex cult in the sewers.  Brought the receipt to Boris.  He told me to eff off.  Tried putting on the robe hoping to bluff him.  Nope.  Never occured to me that I had to bring both robes.  This is a fine solution for players without speech skills, but this situation is exactly what Bluff or Intimidate is for.  Had to go into the toolset to cheat and figure out what I was supposed to do because I got attacked by the assassin in Boris's house, but I never got the ring.  Didn't realize the assassin was going to attack me in my apartment to get the ring.  A signpost in the ring description would have been helpful like, "This looks exactly like Yance's ring".  A reused icon doesn't mean anything to me as a player.  It looks like the quest closed with only two options - give the stuff back to the Death Priest or sell it to Jacia.  Sold it to Jacia for 100k, which is a ridiculous amount of money, and annoyed that Kena was still hostile to me when we were buddies because I sold her the book.  Felt like I was missing some option, especially with the exposition Jacia gives, "Unlimited power by step 8, etc."
• I wish Hyath's ring did a bit more than Haste 1/Day because I would be tempted to keep it.  Looks like I missed out on some new Vico content if I save Christiano.  As it is, it's not worth sacrificing the Assassin's waistcoat.
• Tony got my sexy score up to 5, but my book never went above 3.  After Tony, I never got another sexy score increase.  Ended the game with a 3 book.
• I hate Vico.  Really wish my Princess had the option to kill him.  It makes sense that he is forced on you in the original part 2, and you get to kill him.  But there's no reason to force Vico on the Princess when you killed all the gladiators yourself.  An "Ill wait here while you send Vico" option would have been nice.  Same with investigating the hunting cabin, especially since you have Anders with you.  In fact, it makes more sense for Alfons to keep Vico while you follow what Alfons describes as essentially a wild goose chase.  Vico isn't even needed for the plot to the Hunting Cabin.  All he does is harass your Princess and you don't have the opportunity to kill him.

I could use a couple of hints if someone could fill me in on the new content:  

• Where do I find the butcher for the punisher quest?  Will I stumble on him during the other quest lines like I did with Betty?
• Where do I find Norah?  Will I stumble on her during the other quest lines like when I have to infiltrate the gladiator school?
• What do we do with the room in the sewers with the sex pictures?  I talked to Jacia and she says that if you don't do it right you will never know you did it wrong.  I found the bill and talked to Boris about it, but all he does it tell me to get out.  I even dressed up in the black robe to pretend I was affiliated with Boris's cult and the dialogue didn't change.