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A Dance with Rogues Part 1 2.0 (EE Compatible)
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Submitted by 2acornupper on 2020-12-13 10:28.
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2023-01-27 09:35
So this is A Dance with Rogues 2.0,
- aka Eye Candy Edition,
- aka Extended Edition,
- aka Big Sister Edition,
- aka Second Life Edition,
- aka Enhanced Edition.
Basically the outcome of ten years of playing around with the toolset (on and off). This really picked up steam in spring 2020 due to me having a bit more time to dedictate to this. Also, in summer 2020 I (finally) got a new computer which is now able to run the Enhanced Edition of Neverwinter Nights, so I wanted to make sure the module was still going to be playable under this new version of NWN.
The module should be compatible both with the NWN 1.69 as well as the NWN Enhanced Edition (patch 81.8193.28 at the time of uploading).
The module features a whole bunch of the wonderful custom content created by the NWN community. I loved the elements I have included in the module, be it the tilesets, models, placeables, animations, ...
I have tried to maintain a credits file to give credits where credits are due. Please let me know in case you spot some of your work in the module and I forgot to mention you, and I will adjust. The only intellectual property I can claim is the module file itself.
The original description of the module still remains largely valid, with two exceptions: 1) The hak pack "ACAG" is now actually a series of files, and can be found directly on this page. You need these hak packs to run the module; and 2) The minimum dex requirement for a new character is now 12 instead of 14, to give character creation of bit more flexibility.
To run the module, download and extract:
1. The "mod" file into NWN\modules (1.69) or \Documents\Neverwinter Nights\modules (Enhanced Edition). For starting a new game I highly recommend version 2.20 of the module.
2. The "hak" files into NWN\HAK (1.69) or \Documents\Neverwinter Nights\hak (Enhanced Edition)
Optionally, in case you wish to deactivate the food / drink / rest system, you will need to download the alternative acag109_patch_nofood.zip file. The included hak should overwrite the file with the same filename from 2. above in NWN\HAK (1.69) or \Documents\Neverwinter Nights\hak (Enhanced Edition).
The module has a somewhat "possessive" and temperamental nature and doesn't react well to add-ons, mods, different versions of the haks, or overwrites. It works best if your overwrite folder is completely empty and you only have the module's hak files in your hak folder.
I had a lot of fun putting this together, and playing this version in the last couple of months. If you don't, simply stop. If you do, that's all the reward I ever wanted...
-V
Files:
Thanks, good to know I was not alone, but wait until the end of the scene was helpful tip. Do you know how to set controls for camera, because it is quite frustraiting for game-play experience just stuck-stand in "cutscene" without dialogue or subtitles.
Can't find Brian, The carpenter, from Punisher quest. Any tips?
Ohmylord I was getting bored when I decided to replay this game after not touching it for some years and then you come out of nowhere with this freaking update!! I decided to create an account only to thank you cause dance with the rogues is one of my favourate games of all time and now I get to re experience it with new elements added to it. Thanks again for this gift and happy belated new year! <3
Hi there,
maybe someone can help me with the quest progression:
SPOILERS !!!
after robbing the Vault with Simon and escaping, you're supposed to be looking for a fishing boat on the south bank outside the city to enter the Santa Maria.
However, I can't find that damn boat anywhere.
Anyone can give me a hint on where to look for it?
Thx in advance
Exit the city thru the south gate in the harbor district. Go over the bridge. Follow the coast to the east and you will find it. You may want to press <<TAB>> so that it will light up.
I haven't finished it yet but the changes so far are great, largely the aesthetics. One question though, I've read that they are changing plans for part two and weeelll.. will artos and especially simon get relatively bigger roles? I always wanted to romance simon and get more out of artos and the fact that you could only flirt with them left me a bit frustrated lol
I have been trying to finish the risky business quest for forever now. I only managed to retrieve the armor but still havent found a path for the western path, do i need to get there through the sewers cause nothing else seems to work and im hella stuck ;-;
*** Minor spoiler ***
The sewers are a good idea... but the path will be closed until you find a way to open a gate by activating a lever.
You need to find an access to the sewers in the "Capitole Hill" restricted area in Betancuria West. If I recall correctly, the "Painting" or "Dhorn Love" / "Dhorn Slayer" quests give you various way to gain access to this area.
there are a couple of ways.
get the picture and find your way out is the easiest. just make sure you are good at stealthing or have invisibility.
Dear Acorn, before I start my question let me first say my heartfelt thanks to you for writing such a beautiful story. I recently got the enhanced edition and gave the original campaign a go again but it just couldn't keep me. I tried some persistant worlds after reading about those but that also didn't do it for me as the servers I really wanted to go to were not available on Enhanced Edition.
I found a website that rated your module as high so I gave it a go not expecting much and now I'm stuck playing it already 2 weeks every day straight. It's such a brilliant story and I would really like to continue however I believe I am having an issue and I really hope you can help me as the walkthroughs for this module that I find on the internet seem to be for an older version of the game with a different layout.
Quest: Uncover the Dhorn Spies.
Steps:
1. I investigated Bognar's basement. Took poor Caron to Master Nathan and held the service.
2. Quest is updated that I should find a person who covers themselves in oil. I should report to Master Nathan.
3. I reported to Master Nathan "I have found the secret spot in the sewers where I had heard the Dhorn solder talking to the other man." doing this does not update my quest. The line in step 3 is forever repeatable to be said to Master Nathan. Doing so will cause him to reply:"You've already told me, yes."
4. I talked to Carla at the Beauty palace who refered me to the Bath house.
5. I talked to the staff at the Bath house who said that Gladiators may use this kind of oil.
6. Quest is not updated yet and stuck on reporting to Nathan (not sure if this is intentional). Walkthrough says I should find the "Ticket vendor" because she will send me to Sharita Senneset.
7. I go to the Arena in the Merchant's Quarter.
Area Name <Betancuria, Merchant's Quarter>
Pos: <78, 134, 10> Grid: <13,7>, Tile: <tcm01_a04_01>
8. The entrance is closed until 18:00 - 24:00 so I wait until it is the correct time.
9. I enter the Arena entrance, there is one guard inside with two locked fences behind him that are not lockpickable. Directly when entering the entrance to the left and right are counters without anyone behind them.
And this is the exact point where I get stuck. It doesn't matter if I sneak in outside opening hours. It doesn't matter if I go in at night. It doesn't matter if I wait until the date hits the exact date at which the arena should open (written on the board outside). The inside of that arena entrance is always completely empty with only a single guard and two doors that I can't open or lockpick.
I've looked around the arena thinking that the ticket vendor for the arena might only spawn inside on certain times or is somewhere outside but I never found her. When I talk to Sharita she doesn't help me as I never talked to the ticket vendor to send me to Sharita in the first place.
Now my question is, I'm hoping that I'm just totally looking in the wrong place and you can kindly provide me the location of the ticket vendor so I can continue. If she is supposed to spawn in the arena and something went wrong somehow, then can you please provide me with the trigger I can use in the console to talk to Sharita and continue the quest?
I'm sorry for writing such a huge post but potential bugs or issues are always so hard to describe and I'm not sure what information is useful to you or not so I just write everything =)
there should be people behind the counters, there are when I went there. Be sure to ask the lady ticket seller. the guy just dont understand.
Hello Malekai, thank you for your kind feedback.
As mentioned by Gumby42, the female ticket vendor should be the one who gives you the hint to talk to Sharita.
Please note that all ticket vendors should only spawn when the arena is officially open, so, when you enter the arena:
Dear Acorn,
Thank you for your swift reply! Good to hear that the ticket vendor spawns in the arena. That would make sense to me as well. Unfortunately, it seems either this quest or this NPC is bugged for me as no ticket vendor(s) appear in the Arena regardless of the time or date I enter the arena.
- I went to the Arena on the 19th and on the 22th to check both dates.
- I arrived around 15:00 and the arena door was locked. I tried again at 16:00 and 17:00 without resetting the map. Still locked as expected. The moment the calendar showed 19th or 22th with hour 18:00 I could immediately open the arena door and get inside.
- Inside, directly at the entrance there are two unmanned counters on the left and right sides without any ticket vendors.
Do you know of a way I could continue the main quest even without the ticket vendor NPC?
Try to make a save when you are inside the arena, then, close the game and restart it before loading this save. It may solve the problem (i had the same issue with Jacia Cold, the woman who gives assassination missions in the hideout : sometimes, she wasn't there when i came in).
Thanks for the advice Penombre. I went inside (22th day on the 18th hour) and saved the game. Completely closed the game and restarted it then loaded up my save. Unfortunately no ticket vendor spawned. I'm afraid I probably ruined a trigger somewhere.
Dear Acorn,
Journal updated and the quest is continuing. Problem solved! Thanks for fixing the quest and the boredom of my Corona life =)
*MINOR SPOILERS*
does the quest continue with going to the gladiator school after talking to her? Shirata told me to go to Mercenary Way where we meet a gladiator there and whatever you decide to do with him, there's nothing else you can do after that . I think if I'm not correct , in previous versions she would automatically be in the arena waiting for you after talking to her in the Lionhead Inn.
Hello Sophie, ** spoiler**
you need to make the gladiator open the gate for you.
no I did that but after that I didn't know what to do in the area until I replayed it and realzied my mistake by investigating the place better. Sorry my mistake!
I just finished my 3rd playthru (1 with version 2.01). It is an incredible update to one of my favorite games.
Questions and comments.
This is late but for Brian the Carpenter, you might want to take a peek at the Dhorn Jail in the Capital Hill - I don't think they treat their informants very well...
My turn to have a small problem. SPOILER below
I'm at Tony's house, waiting for him and the sargozians to come back home. He left telling me to have a bath, dress and then wait for him. I'm told by the game that i should wait in the living room. But there is no-one and nothing happens there.
There's an armchair in the bedroom or the next room. Wait there.
Oh, right. I completely discarded the chair in the bedroom because the dialog said to go to the living-room... thank you, Deus :)
I am being lazy, I guess, but could you tell me the order of actions in Castle Crossing? I spent a night in the inn with Pia, found a lot of stuff under wizard's tower, including a kraken and a boat, but what then? Should I have three henchmen from the inn with me? Maybe I missed some entrance to the crypt I know from Valine's original version?
BTW, 2acornupper, I really think you should include the nickname of the original module's author, Valine, in the description. She created this masterpiece from the start, and you are following her footsteps very nicely.
I think the order should be
1. escape cell
2. find "basement" and watch cutscene
3. talk to Castias
4. rest (and get the three henchmen or not - they are not required but make battles easier. When and how they leave depends on to which places you take them.)
5. go to Castias' room
6. talk to Dhorn Emissary about Castias
7. go to Castias' room
8. the rest should be obvious.
I guess it's about timing then, I go to Castius' room after 6. Which cutscene in the basement?
Ok, all I can find is the option to escape by boat underground. But there seems so much to do! So what should I do?
- When and where is the dinner with Castias he invited my Princess to?
- I found the boat, the kraken and secret passages under the castle, in its walls and wizard's tower. What else?
- I found the crypt under the church, but there is no access and the guard upstairs becomes hostile. What else?
Hey Deus, maybe you already solved it but will answer your questions just in case.
- When and where is the dinner with Castias he invited my Princess to?
*Rest in the inn on the castle courtyard (you might get some saucy action with Pia here if you played your cards right). When you return to Castias (Castle, upper floor I believe in his own room) you will find him though he might not be able to have the dinner in the way you think.
- I found the boat, the kraken and secret passages under the castle, in its walls and wizard's tower. What else?
*You already secured your escape route then. Make sure to go to the castle courtyard (where the smithy and inn are) and on the left bottom part of the map should be an entrance into what seems like a tower. Hard to explain it's not shown on the map with a named icon. This is Terek's tower and you should confront him.
- I found the crypt under the church, but there is no access and the guard upstairs becomes hostile. What else?
*I believe we should be able to do something here as well. I couldn't find any secret doors and I couldn't put a vial of blood in the fountain that I found somewhere in the castle so can't help you there.
Yes, solved it. For some reason I had to spend another night in the inn (yep, some action with the lovely Pia), and then when I entered the above mentioned room there was a lot of action and I knew where to run. Thanks anyway!
Pssst @Deus666! @2acornupper IS @Valine just with a different username (This was verified by @Proleric).
TR
Oh my, missed that! So many legends in one place - Valine, Proleric...
Hello 2acornupper, this is the best module I ever played, including OC and expansions. You really should work professionally with game creating.
As a perfeccionist, I tried to complete all quest found and had three minor issues:
*SPOILERS*
Golden Chalice: After stabbing Christiano and killing Myra my journal didn’t update. Even after being rewarded by Hyath and leaving the island.
The Punisher: I couldn’t locate “The Carpenter”.
Undertow: after escaping Jacia’s tower I couldn’t find the quest giver (forgot his name). Came back to his bench many days after and he never appeared again.
I also had some problems with factions, some NPCs wich shouldn’t be hostiles (I presume) were. When i entered the inn south of betancuria some of them were already hostile, per example.
*ROLEPLAYING*
Now some ”incoherencces“ and suggestions I want humbly give:
-When Finno proposes the job to the princess he says she will have to make company to the customers, like chatting and maybe other stuff... but the very first one is a crazy priest who really doesn’t want to talk lol. Maybe adding an opportunity to do this quest being able to avoid some sex, without running away and break the mission, would be cool.
-Christiano doesn’t behave as a lawfull good paladin at all. I know it’s your own world & settings, different gods and rules but sameway it felt strange. In my opinion it would make more sense if their roles were reversed, with the princess being the one encouraging the adultery.
-After spending the night with Pia, she mentions something about a search in the mountains. (what mountains??).
Returning to the wizard tower (after The Crossing quest) Pia speculates it was all a dream or reverie. (i think pia uses that drug wich Tony sold to sargovians).
-The meeting with Jero at the end of the game was weird. My princess had to date him many times to finally persuade him to tell about Caron’s killer and arrange the reunion with Simon (I even killed him after Simon lol), but in the end it was like “hey wassaup, remember me?”.
And for the last, my princess survived a throat cut open, some bolts shot in cold blood and a choke followed by fire. Maybe some explanations in the future attached to the thirteen god?
That’s all, thank you again for you dedication and wonderful module! Forgive my bad english :)
Dyscoplayer :
- some strage convos may be leftovers from previous versions. What 2acornupper did is a massive overhaul and rewriting of the old ADWR mod from Valine, which in itself had different versions and also a few leftovers (in the current iteration, Pia speaking about searching the mountains is a good example).
Hello DyscoPlayer, I am taking notes of the bugs, and will try to address in a future update.
Again, thank you very much for your thoughts and suggestions!
Is there any way to retreive your items after the vault quest with Simon?
I noticed that the instructions specify that Hak files should be placed in Neverwinter Nights\data\hk for EE. Should this be in Documents\Neverwinter Nights\hak or does it really need the hak files to be placed in Beamdog or Steam's data\hk directory?
Many thanks for your help.
As far as I am aware in EE no user created files should go in any of the folders under Neverwinter Nights\data. Such folders are for BeamDog files only. Any user created files placed there are liable to disappear with the next update/patch. User created files are supposed to go under the user's \Documents\Neverwinter Nights folder.
TR
*SPOILER REGARDING QUEST*
I have a question regarding the following quest "Welcome Home". After escaping the battle at the Bearpit and reuniting in a tavern called Barich's tavern we find out that some of our companions from the Bearpit were captured. Little Timmy mentioned they are being interrogated as he overheard some Dhorns saying this. At this point the quest mentioned we can wait and see or try to find someone who has access to classified Dhorn information.
*Wait and see*
I've resumed sleeping 4 days in a row and going to Alfons in Barich's tavern every day during these four days. He never gives an update on Master Nathan's situation. I skipped two complete weeks ahead and went back to the tavern. Sure that our companions are probably dead at this point and still Alfons has no update. I guess our princess has to take action herself.
*try to find someone who has access to classified Dhorn information*
I went to the Merchant's quarter and accessed Capital hill. I investigated the following places:
- Prison cells, murdered all the Dhorn in revenge. Could only find a drunk in a cell who told me to "go away and leave him alone" when I unlocked his prison cell.
- Dhorn Headquarters. Murdered the complete Headquarters. Found stairs leading downwards to the interrogation room. I'm pretty sure this is where they are being held captive but there is only a single door protected by a device. It's not bashable or unlockable and I don't have the key.
- After murdering everyone at the headquarters and a few patrols who happened to see me in Capitol Hill every single Dhorn in the WHOLE CITY has now turned hostile to me in all quarters and all areas both inside and outside. I decided this is quite logical and so I continue this RP even though it makes movement through the city a lot more difficult.
- I went to Tald tavern and Jero is not there (I let him live after killing Simon). I didn't really expect him to help me again after what I did to Simon and Reyne and Marric but he was my only lead for Dhorn information.
*Problem*
I visited some innkeepers also but I feel stuck at this point. Can anyone living in this city provide a girl with some advice as to how to save my companions?
Hello Malekai, ** spolierish and technical**
after the conversation with Alfons at Barich's the module rolls a d8() dice which determines the amount of time it takes for the other Family members to resolve the quest. It looks like you got unlucky and got a rather high number. Basically, you have to talk to Alfons at Barich's on different days until that d8() number is hit. Each attempt reduces the d8() by one, so keep trying.
Reflecting on this, I may change the d8() to d4() in the future.
The "elegant" way to resolve the quest is to talk to Quin at the Dhorn Administration, presuming the Risky Business quest was successfully completed. Then you don't need to wait until the others have figured out how to proceed.
Dear Acorn,
Thanks for the quick replies always. Yeah I told Quin about the way into Capital hill but I never found the officer's armor. No problem, I'll go back and forth for a while then. Interesting technical point that the "wait and see" is not dependent on d8 days passed but on d8 times talked to Alfons. I know what to do now Master Nathan here I come!
2acornupper, thank for all this hard work. Love this. Because of bug-catching you mentioned, there is one (or something to report).
At Capitol hill, there are 2 Fancy House. One (SPOILER with general for Jacia quest SPOILER) is OK, but second house with staircaise in front of the door is missing textures in my gameplay.
It accured in old instalation with lots of modules and still no texture with clear (new) instalation.I put part of CEP 2.65 (mentioned earlier in posts) in hak folder. Playing GOG 1.69 Diamond Edition.
EDIT
Also in Mayor House some problems with maps and "visibility" of structures. In room, everything is OK, but no update about rooms/bulding structure at maps.
mmm... i have a little problem with the Behind Closed Doors quest. Spoilers beyond this point.
So, basically, i stole explosives from Felgen Mining Company, killed everyone in the Steel building and used explosives to destroy everything in sight (the devices, the workbenches, everything).
Apparently, this wasn't how i should have done this ;) Or there's a glitch ?
To complete the Behind Closed Doors quest I just bashed all of the equipment. (Right Click on the devices and attack with your weapons). I'm guessing the game doesn't recognize the explosive as you destroying it because it's technically not an attack.
Dear Acorn,
Just finished this module. Loved it a lot! Was well written from start to end cannot recommend it enough to everyone. I checked out Part Two but I see it seems to give some people trouble on the Enhanced Edition which is unfortunately the only version of NwN I have.
Would you recommend downloading part two and playing it though on EE never the less or is it smart to wait for a update similar to this module?
Any advice? Don't want to have to start all over again!
When I leave the school after killing all the gladiators in the Uncover The Dhorn Spies quest, I get teleported to the Bear Pit but Vico is still in my party and the dialog that fires with Nathan is the standard curtsy/greetings dialog. The journal doesn't update, it still just says I've found the spy's body and need to report to Nathan. Playing the first version of the mod with hot fixes.
Any idea how to proceed? Loving the overhaul so far!
It should have fired. (It did for me) Do you have a save you could reload?
I tried reloading a save before going with Sharita to meet the gladiator, same thing happened again unfortunately.
Just to check... There are 18 gladiators that you need to fight. Once that number is hit, there should be a text stating that that should be all of them, and Vico should initiate some dialogue. If you then return to Nathan, the quest should conclude.
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