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Andarian

"I see it like this, you can do two things... get mad, and... GET OVER IT!

"What you gonna do, call the cops?"

Why, yes, if necessary. It doesn't look to be so in this case.

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Genisys

I post all of my work to the "internet", meaning I know that once it's out there, it's out there...

And this very site is a living testament to that being a fact....

I don't want to argue or step on anyone's toes, I made my point, and you can read it again in the first line of this comment, in case you missed it.

(Can't we just leave it at that?)

All of my work has been moved to this community....

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nwnopencommunity/

 

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TheBarbarian

::benign internet-transmitted hair ruffle:: It's always rather comfortable to cry "and now let's leave it at that" after throwing out a parting derogatory comment or two.

Don't get me wrong, I'm right there with you on the "Personally, I don't really give a damn about this particular thing"-train. There's nothing wrong with that PHoD and Andarian, among others, do give a damn, though, and making fun of others for caring about things that you personally do not care about is not a very nice thing to do. Try to bear the backlash with dignity (isn't it kind of nice to know that people would speak out in your defense as well, should somebody needlessly antagonize you on some matter which you care about but they do not, someday?), and know that it is really up to you to let the matter rest.

Also, the very existence of these protective-bystander-interjections may make a difference to PHoD when it comes to reacting to your comment - I know I wouldn't be pleased to be on the receiving end of a "What you gonna do about it, call the cops? LOL". Don't knock their diplomatic value. ;-)

offtopic: i am currently drawing wrinkly old men and the wrinkles are not turning out the way I want them to this is terrible I am now sad :(

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Soul_Thievery

@ Turkeys, Nexus also have to deal with bethesda.net and the trolling of those who "post" mods there.

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PLUSH HYENA of DOOM

Genisys appears to be present on this site for the sole purpose of insulting and mocking everyone here with a lot of needless, snide comments and pathetically unintelligent, so-called "sarcasm" which he seems to think is clever and apparently fails to realize just makes him look moronic.

Me, I don't much care, sticks and stones and all that... But I know he's genuinely upset and irritated a good few people, old hands and newcomers alike, for no reason at all, just because - shock horror - they have a different point of view to his, which, apparently being a rabid egotist, he seems unable to abide. I know of one potential newcomer who was thinking of actively getting involved in this Community who turned around and went away because she was "disgusted" by Genisys' needless rudeness in several threads. Do we really want someone here whose mere presence turns people away? I haven't checked myself, but I've been told by more than one other Community member that Genisys seems to do nothing but churn out endless rehashes of other people's works glued together and given a bit of spit and polish. And then make long, heavy-handed threads demanding everyone vote on his stuff and venerate his wondrous name and ply him with awards for self-centredness beyond the bounds of stupidity...

It would seem that the Spleen's just a Troll, as I believe they're called, who for whatever sad, debased reasons wants to try and annoy people and drive them away. Fine, if he wants to be a miserable little killjoy, that's his prerogative.

I can't be bothered talking to Obvious Spleens and make this post only to put what I see as an "end to the matter" on it... which I already had. There was no need to "call the cops" because I had already dealt with the matter myself, as I said. I made further comment only because Andarian asked me to. Since Genisys would appear to be nothing but an idiotic, troublemaking Troll, I can quite see why Community members communicating and helping each other would be anathema to his warped little brain. But that's his problem. And he can't spell "Hyena" either.

So, just for the record, if the flagrant little Spleen wants to go on insulting me, he can do so to his heart's content, just so long as he doesn't expect any further response. I'm officially ignoring him now 'cause he's too rubbish to take any notice of.

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TheBarbarian

There has always been and will always be trolling on the internet. Also, people who have different motivations than oneself has - we are all differently predisposed towards certain traits or behaviours, and do not usually get much of a say in what programming we receive when we are young. Some people sincerely operate on the basis of a constantly-decreasing "approval/attention tank" that they need to keep filling for the sake of their wellbeing - basically the behaviour of an addict, and that possibly sucks even more for the people so afflicted than for the bystanders around them, as the afflicted tend to have been born and raised into what they are and often do not even recognize that their mode of operations is detrimental to their own health and happiness, and have to put in painstaking effort to change if they want to train it out again.

What reflects poorly on a community is never the conduct of a single person, but how the masses are seen responding to that conduct. Being intolerant of intolerance is also intolerance. If "good" people were more inclined to contribute positively and improve their environment, rather than summarily rejecting whatever behaviours they find "bad" and staying away entirely (or behaving in ways which they deem reprehensible in others), existence would be a lot more pleasant for everybody involved. If you are surrounded by people that share your exact opinions and beliefs and violently reject different thinking, and only people like that, you are probably part of some sort of cult.

You never know who the other person is, on the internet, and what kind of life they've lived, or how old they are, senpai. Being a jerk stands no chance of teaching either the person insulting you or the silent observers a better way.

Be respectful.

The Vault community and its members treat one another with respect. Everyone can make a valuable contribution to the Vault. We may not always agree, but disagreement is no excuse for poor behavior and poor manners. We might all experience some frustration now and then, but we cannot allow that frustration to turn into a personal attack. It's important to remember that a community where people feel uncomfortable or threatened is not a productive one. We expect members of the Vault community to be respectful when dealing with other contributors as well as with people outside the Vault and with users of Neverwinter Nights.

-The Vault Code of Conduct

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Proleric
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@TheBarbarian wrote "Being intolerant of intolerance is also intolerance"

Sorry, can't agree. Tolerance is mutual, not capitulation. A community can only remain tolerant by taking sanctions against harmful behaviour.

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TheBarbarian

I see no conflict between these arguments. Remaining open-minded and civil about your disagreement is not mutually exclusive with voicing disagreement - all the same, "The color red is the color red" is as much true (and a tautology) as "Intolerance (of whatever) is intolerance". Are we thinking of the same definition of the word "intolerance"? I'm operating on the dictionary definition "1. lack of tolerance; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect opinions or beliefs contrary to one's own. 2. unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect persons of a different social group, especially members of a minority group."

Point being, it's possible to defend oneself and others without attacking the worth and integrity of the person you are disagreeing with, or calling for their exile. I realize both parties here have provoked eachother, but are "he/she/it started it!" and "other people are doing it too!" really valid reasons to be purposefully insulting, under any circumstances?

It's also very difficult to get people to agree on what exactly is "harmful" behaviour, you know? :-/ The backlash-bullying people tend to get for behaving somehow politically incorrectly doesn't exactly help create harmony. All you really get by doing that is this eternal "SOMEBODY ELSE HURT ME, SO I AM ENTITLED TO HURT THEM BACK!"-loop, and it just goes on and on and on. And then crazy people pop up that stoke people into pitchfork mobs where they're all telling eachother that they're somehow entitled to actively degrade others because they're "in the right", or something.

blegh. :(

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henesua

I normally don't do this but...

Due to the nature of the discussion, if this argument is to continue, make a new thread and focus on the topic of "tolerance" if that is really what you want to discuss.

In general, if anyone is being abusive, send a moderator or admin a PM to draw their attention to the specific instance of the abuse. You are welcome to address someone directly in a civil manner and let them know that you don't like their behavior and ask them to stop, but please try to keep it civil. I'd rather not see things devolve into bitterness and acrimony on the forum.

As far as things go, it is obvious that there are issues in this thread beyond simply what the core discussion is about. I encourage everyone to take a step back and leave it alone if you can't handle the conversation without getting heated or calling another out in anger.

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