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Nick the Noodle
Your use of Leto?

What do you use Leto for?

It is easy to create a really powerful PC by adding feats, but here are a few I use.

Ranger: Remove dual wield, and add weapon spec longbow.

Ranger: Remove Mount oprions and medium armour.  Add barbarian fast move.

L1 Specialist mage - Conjurer: Add animal cleric domain.

L1 Fighter at L1 - Add weapon prof -Exotic.

Elf Rogue - Replace thief wpn prof with wizard.  Add rapier spec.

Halfling Rogue: Add sling spec.

Sun Elf: Reduce dex by 2 and add 2 to Int.  Add Court Mag feat.

 

These are a few options I use.  Rather than beef up a character I essentially create a subclass.  I could explain my choices if anyone is interested.

What do you use Leto for?

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dvd

Basically I do almost the same: I remove the shield proficiency for rangers giving them longbow weapon focus instead, if I ever happen to remove medium armor proficiency too, I enhance the ranger with a random lvl1-only feat.

By using Leto I tried to create Aasimars just to give the paladin class some more flavor. Did almost the same to create Svirfneblins or Duergars.

Sometimes I make a revisited version of the pre-made bard types suggested during character creation (blade, gallantry etc.), that could be done for other classes too. Usually a double wielder specialised character makes me drop the shield proficiency.

More likely I add the exotic proficiency for dwarf warriors in order to get a dwarven waraxe at level one without sacrificing a lvl1-only feat (such as "bullheaded").

A feature that is missing, I think, is the "favoured class" option, for a Svirf (or Teifling) that should be rogue, paladin for the Aasimar and so on.

Like you stated, I too am not so fond of adding many many feats in order to create a uber character.

BTW I would like to take some of your tips if I happen to create a new char, especially that "conjurer mage". I would go for dart (as an alternative to sling) specialisation too for the halfling rogue.

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August the 6th, 2018.

Adding some more experience with Leto:

When stripping form the warrior class some proficiencies like light and/or medium armor and simple weapons, the character was someway more fun to play. The given XPs were re-calculated regarding the loss of those specs that could be easily regained if multiclassing as Dwarven Defender, CoT or Blackguard.

 

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Jedijax

I use it as a new game + that goes well beyond level 40. You get to level 40 with a character mix of classes, de-level him or her, and then use LETO to re-add the feats and attributes you gained and deem worth keeping, but in a level 1 character that is now free to take another path. Use it the same way in NWN2. This way, your character's progress never ends, unless you want him/her to. The only reccomendation I make is to start with a wizard, for your base class can never be changed this way. Leto won't let you respec a level 1 class, so a Wizard as base makes sense for you to retain all learned spells regardless of what path you choose.


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Mmat

Hello Nick,

How's this:

Fighter: remove martial weapons, add exotic

Actually, I don't need Leto for this, just a modified *.2da in the override. What do you want to discuss? The usage of Leto or possible new subclasses?

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sigofmugmort

Dwarves get exotic for Dwarven waraxe

Rangers lose two-weapon for Long/short bow focus(specialize at level 9),with rapid shot at level 5 except for Dwarven ranged Rangers who get heavy crossbow feats.

Half-Orcs either have Int,Cha changed to a -1 on each(prefered), or a +1 or +2 to Con since i do NOT agree that losing 4 points equalls a 2 point increase to Str.

Leto,s is great for fine-tuning characters above first level

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Nick the Noodle

A conjurer mage loses access to the transmuter spells, which includes attribute buffs, weapon buffs, shifting spells and some really useful spells such as timestop and greater stoneskin.  A better specialist is an illusionist which only loses access to enchantments, which imho is the least useful school.  Lack of sleep spell at level 1 is harsh, but this is more than made up by additional spells, especially when sleep is no longer decent.  By giving the conjurer the animal domain, his summon spells are enhanced, and his limitations offset.

I went sling for halfling, partly as a nod the the original ADnD MM, and also to create a 'David' (as in Goliath) PC. 

 

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Nick the Noodle

You cannot create the subclasses I would like to see in NWN, whether PC or NPC.

For example, a Guardsman class, based on the fighter, would be one I would like to see.  It would have a high will, rather than a high fort save.  Bonus feats would be changed to include alertness, iron will and similar.  Weapon prof would be reduced, but still include the halberd, the weapon used by the Beefeater, the Papal Guard, streltsy (actually the bardiche in this case), and even lowly watchen, but skills available would expand to include spot, listen, search and intimidate.

What would be useful is a template to create a PC class, not yet available.  Proleric did an awesome job in creating the Courtesan class, but it meant removing the Barbarian as an option.

One thing that Leto cannot do is to change weapon proficiencies.  For example, a Rogue replacing rapier for whip to create an Indiana Jones PC subclass.

 

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